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Autor: "Kurt Knoll" (2008-04-26 19:26:36)
"osugeography" wrote in message
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On Apr 26, 11:15�am, Doc Tony
wrote:
> Doc Tony wrote:
> > Craig Stevens wrote:
>
> >> On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 01:54:04 -0400,
> >> Doc Tony
> >> wrote:
>
> >>> Well [and this O/T post is prompted by an email to me from
Amazon-com
> >>> [** or said email from Amazon to anyone else who may have
purchased
> >>> an HD [** High Definition] DVD player from the Amazon-com
website
> >>> PRIOR to "February 23, 2008" [sic -- Amazon-com]
where I now have a
> >>> year to use an Amazon $50.00 credit for any item Amazon
sells].
>
> >>> The story in brief: Started out the exact same way years ago
with the
> >>> RCA VCR system vs the "Betamax" VCR system [recall
that one?] with,
> >>> as everyone knows, the RCA system winning out and grabbing
the
> >>> majority of the market until Betamax pulled out entirely.
>
> >> Slight correction it wasnt RCA VCR system but rather JVC VHS
system.
> >> JVC is the Japanese Victor Corporation which was at one time
linked to
> >> the old RCA Victor Corporation. JVCs VHS was superior to Betamax
> >> which was why it won out.
>
> >>> When HD DVDs became the thing and various and sundry began to
> >>> heavily market the HD DVD disk in early 2007, bang, the
battle
> >>> between the Toshiba/SONY folks and their H-1/H-2 HD DVD
system vs
> >>> BLURAY� HD DVDs. Naturally, one HD DVD
would NOT play on the
> >>> others
> >>> system.
>
> >> Not entirely true. I do believe (I think) Samsung or is it LG has
a
> >> player which will play both
> >> formats in addition to regular DVDs.
>
> >>> H1/H2 vs Bluray.
>
> >> I am glad the format war is over. I refused to purchase a single
DVD
> >> in either format
> >> though many people have built quite a library of HD-DVD format
discs
> >> which are now relegated
> >> as being personal museum pieces. My advice for them is what
owners of
> >> Pioneer LaserDiscs did
> >> and that was to but more than one spare LaserDisc player. To the
best
> >> of my knowledge Pioneer
> >> still offers ay least one LaserDisc player which will also play
> >> regular DVDs. I am glad the DVD
> >> dual layer put the old Pioneer LaserDisc system to pasture. You
had to
> >> put up with changing
> >> discs or flipping them for longer movies.
>
> >> An also ran was the RCA CED video disc which was supposed to
compete
> >> with the Pioneer
> >> LaserDisc. I bought one and regretted it a short time later. The
CED
> >> system was not laser
> >> oriented and it actually used a stylus which would wear out and
have
> >> to be replaced at $75.00 a
> >> shot. Not one disc would ever play without glitches and dropouts.
What
> >> attracted me to the RCS
> >> CED video disc as well as others? The prices for movies was lower
than
> >> LaserDiscs and way much
> >> lower than either Beta or VHS movies. Remember the time was the
early
> >> 80s where a LaserDisc
> >> player cost a $1000.00, a cheap VCR was about $650.00 and the RCA
CED
> >> player could be had for
> >> $250.00. Also in the early 80s to purchase a movie on tape would
coast
> >> $100.00 but an RCA CED
> >> movie would run about $20.00. People also bought the CED disc
system
> >> because they trusted the
> >> RCA brand name which is why I bought one.
>
> > I was one of them, Craig! Still have it too! In my downstairs
> > nostalgia area or, as one website calls it, "The Home of Dead
Media."
> > In fact, predating the RCA Selectavision purchase, I bought the first
> > [wayyyyy back when] Montgomery Ward offered CED player which, and the
> > usual OK, it has the usual Montgomery Ward name on it but who
actually
> > makes it for Ward!, and it turned out to be manufactured by the
> > Toshiba folks "for Montgomery Ward" but it had one big
problem [as I
> > soon found out] .. that %$#$%*^% �DRIVE BELT and
if it jammed, what a
> > pain in the ass to fix it and if it broke, which it did long after
the
> > thing went out of production, just try finding a drive belt for the
> > thing that was the exact specs else it would not run properly! Hence
the
> > move to the DIRECT DRIVE RCA Selectavision and yes, that pop out
> > stylus [and, as you say, VERY pricey where the then $75 would be like
> > %150-175 now for a replacement stylus!] in the back for cleaning with
> > the Q-tip and alcohol whatever cleaning mixture. I still have about
25
> > of those square CED flicks. Brisk business in same at Ebay for dead
> > media nostalgia buffs!
>
> > Anyway, Craig, ready for some CED nostalgia? This guy has been on the
> > Net since 1995 with an RCA CED dedicated website. I found the website
> > in 96 when someone told me about it because the guy sold [reasonable
> > --a few bucks] DRIVE BELTS for the older [Ward/Toshiba] and I as able
to
> > resurrect the Ward/Toshiba player. Get this, the guy, Tom H., says
his
> > most popular download is the 1981 RCA Fanfare and its on the website
> > with all kinds of related CED source info and related CED data/info.
> > Scroll down, look for the "1981 Fanfare" [about 14 seconds]
and the
> > words in the video "A SelectaVision VideoDisc Presentation"
---
>
> >http://www.cedmagic.com/selectavision.html
>
> > Doc Tony
> > ;-)
>
> ADDENDUM -- Naturally, I left out the upshot of the website guy when
> he subsequently says, "... the most popular download [the RCA
"Fanfare"
> on the original CEDs] because it is a catchy jingle but I wonder how
> many folks know that what they are listening to is not some RCA written
> jingle but Mussorgskys "Pictures at an Exhibition" -- the piece
and
> the condensed RCA borrowed "jingle" version of same are both
located
> on the website. Video version for the RCA "Fanfare" and audio
only for
> the expanded Mussorgsky -- click [at the top] "Pictures at an
> Exhibition" and, voil� the RCA jingle ... albeit
courtesy of Modest
> Petrovich Mussorgsky!
>
> Doc Tony
> ;-)
>
> This too --- anyone --- among my nostalgia stuff, I have an old 8 mm
B&H
> movie projector ==AND== equally vintage [hand wind yet!] "Revere
8"
> [Model 44] 8 mm movie camera -- palm size but roughly the size of an
> adult hand and having two knock-outs for additional lens [or whatever
> the tech term is for the part you screw in there] inclusions. Anyone for
> a source for those projection bulbs for the 8 mm projector AND 8mm
> film [if even still made!] and at reasonable prices? Email or public. TIA.
>
>
>
>
>
> >>> Getting to the bottom line here, AMAZON states that
apparently the
> >>> battle and internal squabbles ended in February with an
> >>> announcement that BOTH sources are, and I quote, "As you
may know,
> >>> manufacture of HD DVD players CEASED on February 23, 2008,
and major
> >>> studios in the United States have ceased production of HD
DVDs."
>
> >>> In effect, both the requisite player AND the HD DVD went down
the
> >>> drain. Since these HD "players" are BACKWARD
COMPATIBLE to normal
> >>> [non HD] DVDs, the players will NOT be returnable but a $50
credit
> >>> [at least by Amazon] is being allowed to anyone who bought
one prior
> >>> to February 23rd. Apparently, and this from reading the
obituary on
> >>> the thing here and there, folks did not like AGAIN
duplicating their
> >>> video collections [tape to DVD kind of thing] and the idea
that the
> >>> pricey [they tried dropping the price from an original $29.95
to
> >>> $19.95 but the market just wasnt there] ==and== the
"HD" DVD DISK
> >>> could ONLY be played on a HD DVD player [red laser vs blue;
laser]
> >>> and the disk NOT being backward compatible to standard DVD
players
> >>> and Im reading that some HD DVD disks "did not come up
to
> >>> expectations" [sic] . Translation: a flop! Those HD DVD
disks that I
> >>> bought [about 15 of them [HD DVD] were excellent and I have
no
> >>> complaints ==ALTHOUGH== I recall getting the HD DVD version
of U2
> >>> [Bono and the band in the old days ["Rattle and
Hum" -- what, you
> >>> thought all my stuff was classical piano!] and I could NOT
see any
> >>> appreciable difference from the normal DVD and hence non HD
DVD
> >>> version of same! Anyway, unless resurrected, the HD DVD
player and
> >>> HD disk and all its hype are now history save for remaining
surplus
> >>> stocks of HD DVD disks and at significant discounts. Yet, one
of my
> >>> HD-DVD [I have both now] is the Eagles [Oz Land 2005
"Farewell I"
> >>> tour in Melbourne] and I thought the HD version was
spectacular. I
> >>> could see the nail marks [!] on Joe Walshs [Fender] guitar
fret
> >>> board -- it was that clear over the regular DVD. Go figure!
>
> >>> Perhaps theyll go full circle and bring back 3D with the ol
3D
> >>> specs! Or, and one can never say never, perhaps a way to
produce that
> >>> 3D depth effect or akin to same albeit sans the need for any
> >>> special viewer specs or gizmos required by the user.
>
> >>> Doc Tony
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Hi Doc!
http://www.dwaynesphoto.com/
in Parsons, KS, has FRESH Ektachrome 64T Super 8 x 50ft (15m) Color
Reversal Film 7280, for $15 ea., not including processing. This is
offered on ebay, 25 rolls, at
http://cgi.ebay.com/Ektachrome-64T-Super-8-Movie-Film-NEW-Fresh-Stock
W0QQitemZ130215745117QQihZ003QQcategoryZ4200QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
They offer "Processing for Super 8, Regular 8 and 16mm Kodachrome
movie film", cost not stated.
Phone 800-522-3940
Ages ago (mid seventies, I think), I almost got "seriously" into
Super-8, trying to purchase a new Beaulieu 4008 ZM-2, but it was out
of stock at my discount dealer, so I purchased a Pentax 6X7 film
camera instead...
Marvin
Hey Marvin I still have my pentax 645 and all the lenses includin my
complete Hasselbald outfit but nobody does any developing up here. I dolt my
grand kits they can have it as a souvenir or donate it to the local museum.
The same goes for my electronic gear with Tektronics scopes an there like.
Did have better equipment her than the local TV Station.
Kurt.